As much as I agree with you about smoking, I am old enough to remember when smoking on aircraft was

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Did you even read the article? Your topic heading is a bit rich. Had he just attempted a smoke aboard the aircraft, he would have faced a maximum 2 years in prison with fines. This passenger took things much further. He physically assaulted members of the flight crew, which led QF to divert the flight, costing QF thousands of dollars. This is why he is now facing 10 years in prison.
Quoting airevents ( Reply 5 ): From my point of view the jail term for smoking on board just cannot be long enough. These people are, in a bad case, putting some 300, 400 lifes at risk. Doesn´t london tour bus that merit a hefty fine?
As much as I agree with you about smoking, I am old enough to remember when smoking on aircraft was unrestricted, london tour bus and in the main these were aircraft types which are still arounf 707,727,737,747 london tour bus and A300, 310, and I am unaware it was a major flight risk.
I did some hypobaric runs in the "chamber". It is quite revealing. We were given a sheet of 50 or so simple arithmetic sums to do. The chamber was depressurised to 30,000 london tour bus ft, the air filled with mist momentarily, and then we commenced the sums.
Lit cigarettes do not just magically appear in your hand/mouth. You have to plan to smoke. This makes it a premeditated act. In Canada it makes the entire crime premeditated, london tour bus I would assume Australian law would be the same as it has the same basis, but not sure on that...
I think the alcohol is more his problem than hypoxia or dehydration. According to other news reports on this, his court case had to be delayed till the afternoon because london tour bus he turned london tour bus up to the court drunk.
Quoting Ruscoe london tour bus ( Reply 6 ): I am old enough to remember when smoking on aircraft was unrestricted, and in the main these were aircraft types which are still around 707,727,737,747 and A300, 310, and I am unaware it was a major flight risk.
I doubt that the passenger will be sentenced to ten years, particularly if he has no previous convictions. You don't even get ten years for manslaughter so a punch and spitting, while completely unacceptable, would likely result in a lower penalty london tour bus than the maximum.
On 17 December a Qantas flight from Sydney to Tokyo diverted to Cairns to offload an unruly passenger for poor and threatening behaviour towards passengers and crew. Qantas london tour bus crew did an excellent job managing this situation and bringing it under control. The Australian Federal Police (AFP) met the aircraft in Cairns london tour bus to take the passenger into custody and the flight continued to Tokyo. This is an extreme and rare event but we have a zero tolerance approach for anti-social behaviour, and any actions that could compromise the safety of anyone on our aircraft. Following the incident, the AFP has warned that unruly passengers will now face charges. In 2011/12, the AFP responded to more than 1,000 alcohol-related incidents at major airports and charged 145 people with various offences.
I'm all for banning troublesome passengers london tour bus from flights (that don't have a mental disability) but 10 years?! IIRC, sometimes rape won't even carry that charge! Intent has a huge part in all this... was he trying to blow up the plane? No? Then **** 10 years, london tour bus ban him from the flight, maybe... (I know punching/spitting has something to do with it
I think the fair sentence would be 2 years in prison (as per Australian Law for smoking) and every individual on that plane whom he assaulted (punching and spitting) should reciprocate those behaviors towards him.
For those on here stating that this sentence of 10 years is a bit harsh, can I ask how many of you have been in an aircraft that has had an inflight smoke event (or inflight cabin fire)? I'd imagine with some of the comments on here - NONE.
In my 26 year flying london tour bus career, I've had 2 inflight smoke events. None of them from smoking, but from electrical faults that led to immediate diversions whilst we carried out the relevant checklist/s, which included on one flight cracking the doors to evacuate the smoke. Those 2 events have been the most traumatic events of my flying career and something I never wish to have repeated. I take smoking onboard very seriously, and have the offender offloaded with the Police and follow it up with a civil charge.
Quoting airevents ( Reply 5 ): From my point of view the jail term for smoking on board just cannot be long enough. These people are, in a bad case, putting some 300, 400 lifes at risk. Doesn´t that merit a hefty fine?
Quoting Ruscoe ( Reply 6 ): As much as I agree with you about smoking, I am old enough to remember when smoking on aircraft was unrestricted, and in the main these were aircraft types which are still arounf 707,727,737,747 and A300, 310, and I am unaware it was a major flight risk.
Yes, but you have to remember that back in those days, smoking was accepted and there were plenty of ashtrays to place the cigarette ash and stub. There are usually no ashtrays today and with the blanket law on no smoking, the inflight smokers take their habit to the toilets, (in most cases), and dump the ash and stub into the waste bin, which surprisingly is full of waste paper. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to point out the danger in that scenario.
Quoting Dogbreath ( Reply 25 ): For those on here stating that this sentence of 10 years is a bit harsh, can I ask how many of you have been in an aircraft london tour bus that has had an inflight smoke event (or inflight cabin fire)? I'd imagine with some of the comments on here - NONE.
I have fortunately not been in that situation. I have been in buildings filled with smoke due to fire. Once in an underground facility where the emergency exit we tried to use was locked. I also spent 2 years installing fire detection systems. Not that it matters.
I'm not saying this is acceptable or that there shouldn't be consequences. What I am saying is that a 10 year sentence provide nothing more than a significantly shorter sentence but costs a lot more to everyone london tour bus else.
I say throw the book at this guy... He should get 2 years for smoking (and not apologizing etc), another 2 years for threatening the safety of the aircraft/people on board, another london tour bus 4 years for aggravated assault, and 2 years for resisting arrest london tour bus (captains and their subordinates ie crew, have the power of arrest on aircraft). There's your 10 years to be served consecutively. He would of course be entitled to bail after something like 5 years for good behaviour.
Yes there are, usually on the exterior of the lavatory doors (these are mandatory), and most airlines will also place them on the interior of lavatory doors (these are optional). The reasoning behind it is that although you are not allowed to smoke inflight, you must have a safe place to extinguish a cigarette in the event someone does light up.
This cannot the first time that an inebriated passenger has assaulted london tour bus cabin crew in an aircraft where Australia has jurisdiction. Does anyone know what penalties were applied by Australian courts after similar incidents?
On the subject of smoking on aircraft, which airline first banned smoking london tour bus in aircraft and when? And is there any airline that still allows smoking on board today? (I know JL allowed smoking on board till well into the 1990's, Saudi Arabian I heard was a holdout but not sure if they've banned smoking now)
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