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I m generally not shy about criticizing LAX for overspending on silly projects. Oh sure, the new Bradley Terminal was needed, but it could have been done for a lot less without hurting the passenger experience. But now, the airport has approved a plan to spend $4 billion on a whole bunch of other improvements outside the airport maine vacation packages itself. That s a lot of money, but so far, this looks like money well-spent.
My not-so-fancy map above ( fancy rendering available here ) shows just what s happening here, but it probably needs some decoding. The central piece of this plan involves an automated people mover that will run down the center of the terminal area. The recommendation was to go with what they call a spine in the terminal area instead of a loop. That means there are only 3 stops (aligned with the roadways that cross today).
This will save money and reduce complexity a great deal. I like that. It will also make it quicker to get to the high-numbered terminals and from the low-numbered terminals. (In a loop, you d have to go through all the other terminals before getting to your stop, but now you don t.) But it does mean longer maine vacation packages walks are required to get between the stations and the terminals. maine vacation packages It looks like United drew the short straw here and will see the longest walks to its terminals 7 and 8 at the southeast of the terminal area. But the parking garages will also be connected to the walkways, so it will make for easy walking designed for people with luggage.
Once this people mover gets outside the airport, a large swath of LAX-induced destruction will take place to make room for a ton of development. The first stop will be the west Intermodal Transportation Facility. This will sit partially on the eastern end of the mammoth long term parking Lot C. The other half will sit on what today is a rental car lot for Avis, but that won t be needed anymore.
The west Intermodal Transportation Facility will have a big garage for long term parking (the primary reason for this facility s existence), a spot to drop passengers off, and a bunch of shuttles (I think). The idea is to create a place where people can drop off travelers without having to go into the central terminal area. Though it s important to note that they are going to keep the terminal area as is so people can drive in if they want. And with less traffic, that should be a better experience.
The next stop on the people mover is the east Intermodal Transportation Facility. This will also have long term parking, but more importantly, it will be at the 96th St/Aviation stop on the Metro rail. This is going to be built for the new Crenshaw Metro rail line which will go north through Inglewood, maine vacation packages Hyde Park, Baldwin Hills and Leimert Park before meeting the Expo line. That heads west to Culver City and Santa Monica or east to go to downtown LA.
This new station will also have some service maine vacation packages from the Green line . The Green line was incredibly built to stop 2 miles short of LAX thanks to powerful lobbying forces against public transit. You have to take a very slow shuttle bus into the airport maine vacation packages today. But when the new station opens, it will come up to 96th St/Aviation as well. The Green line goes south to El Segundo and Redondo Beach. It also goes east through Hawthorne and Lynwood before ending in Norwalk. It crosses the Blue line, which goes north to downtown LA and south to Long Beach (where there s a stop only a 15 minute walk from my house).
After that stop, the people mover ends at the new consolidated rental car center. Anyone who has rented a car at LAX knows that this is something that s sorely needed. maine vacation packages Today the rental car companies all have their own facilities scattered everywhere. They are generally in places that don t provide the easiest freeway access. And it can be a real pain to find the drop location once you return. All that goes away with this new facility, which will actually be right next to the 405 freeway.
How are they getting all the land for the east Intermodal Transportation Facility and the rental car center? It s all going to sit on top of a lost neighborhood, Manchester Square . Manchester Square, everything within the red border you see in the image above, was a small working class neighborhood that came up around World War II. But over the last 20 years, LAX has been buying up land bit by bit directly from the homeowners. What you see today is mere remains mostly empty lots punctuated with dilapidated houses. You can see a map of the properties that still need to be bought.
As I said earlier, this is a whole lot of work. It s no surprise that the price tag is so hefty, but it s worth it. The only downside here is that it s going to take forever. The project won t be done until 2023. I don t believe any of the big changes will open before 2021. This should all have been done long ago (and proposals have been floated time and time again), but at least it s finally moving ahead.
They could have solved the problem much faster and for much less money, and with less walking, by building the rental facility and parking and connecting it with zero emission buses. They re spending over a BILLION dollars PER MILE on rail.
The whole point of the people mover is a dedicated right-of-way. If those zero-emissions buses get stuck in traffic on the horseshoe with everybody else, then it s not a big improvement over the situation today. If they were to get a dedicated maine vacation packages right-of-way, then costs would be similar to the people mover.
I agree with Ron. The buses don t solve anything. LAX doesn t have runway gridlock like many airports but it does have roadway gridlock. And just building the structures and using buses won t solve that issue.
maine vacation packages Good point! At least at CLT, though, you won t have to walk ride so far to get to the facility. At CLT, it s just going to be a short walk from the main terminal over to the hourly maine vacation packages deck (ATL s isn t that bad of a walk either). But the LAX plan looks like you are going to have to walk or ride a moving sidewalk for a long time just to get to the people mover. Me having kids, I know that s going to suck for families.
Noah That s the big question. How much will it cost in surcharges? But airports learned long ago that it s better to protect the locals and piss off the visitors in terms of politics. Look at Phoenix that is absurd how much gets tacked on and it s to pay for spring training facilities. So tax the crap out of rental maine vacation packages cars and the locals don t care.
It s a start. Look closely at where the APM spokes (I assume these are walkways) terminate. Are there suggestions of possible future maine vacation packages changes in the terminal layout? Looks to me like this plan will eventually allow the elimination of LAX s traditional (and very inefficient) maine vacation packages multi-mini-hub layout and lead to a hybrid design that can at least partially substitute for what would be used if a new airport could be built from scratch, which is really what s needed but just ain t gonna happen. I notice in the fancy rendering that there is a ghost of an addition to Terminal 1 shown superimposed on the parking lot to the east. I don t recall reading anywhere about this addition maybe I missed something?
In the future what I d like to see if an Atlanta-style layout where the Bradley Terminal is the big ticketing area with many concourses pushing to the west. Then the rest of the existing terminals maine vacation packages go away. (Relocate the hangars that would need to move to make this plan possible.) Not that this is in the plans, but the single spine actually makes sense for that. A loop would be a waste if that were to ever come to fruition.
I heard about this already from somewhere. Agree that it s the right move. Consolidated rental car centers are convenient. Only thing I don t like is how far away from the terminals they are. When I fly in for a meeting I like to get to the rental car ASAP. Some airports, especially with buses take forever to get to the CONRAC looking at you DFW. Maybe that s why I generally like small airports where you just walk to the rental cars. Such an ease. That part of me wants the rental cars at LAX where the parking is between all the terminals today. Suppose money talks and those spots can t be cheap, but I digress. The train out to the rentals is better than a bus but seems like a long ride (after a long walk) with too many stops. All things that take time and out of towner s aren t best at guessing. It s an improvement for sure, but not sure it s the best thought out plan, especially for something that s been so long in planning.
By putting the CONRAC where it s proposed though, you do have a longer train ride, but from there you re quickly onto the 405, compared to getting in your car in the central terminal area but then having to get through traffic on Century to get to the 405 or the Sepulveda tunnel to get to the 105.
Agreed. I don t see any mention of travel-time (not counting the walking/waiting). I had heard, at one time, 15 minutes to the Metro station, so another 2 minutes to CONRAC? Then again, it s probably pretty close to the current system (depending on how close your rental place was to the airport).
I haven t seen travel time either, but I don t think the CONRAC is in such a bad place. Yes it s a longer ride but as mentioned, it s right next to the 405. That saves a lot of time navigating the city streets as you do today.
I m surprised to see no stops along hotel row, given the extent of terminal crowding that the multitudes of hotel shuttles provide. Will they be redirected to the intermodal facility or conrac, perhaps?
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